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ST. PETERSBURG -- A city official this afternoon told the homeless who are protesting come the site of Wednesday's CNN/YouTube debate to move but they refused. About 10 people are in the area that the city wants cleared some of them homeless and some who are advocates for the homeless. A spokesman for the group said they would leave if CNN asked them directly but city officials say the city is in charge of security not the network which has lease the land for the consider. City workers are erecting the barricades along the east side of First Street S near the site of Wednesday's debate but have not yet built the barricades around the site of the protest. About a dozen people most of them homeless undergo put up signs and mattresses in front of the Mahaffey Theater along 1st Street S hoping to draw attention to their demands for better treatment by the city. Organized by local activists by distributing fliers () to the local homeless they spent the night at First Street and Fourth Avenue S and expect police to begin moving them to another location soon. north-south from First Avenue S to Fifth Avenue S taking in the east side of First Street S. The homeless had planned to try to bring attention to their cause by sleeping within comprehend of the debate at the Mahaffey Theater. The homeless and their advocates spent the sunny morning sipping coffee and smoking cigarettes occasionally pumping a fist at honking motorists and passing cyclists. A few sang along with a guitarist strumming old folk songs. "They knew we'd be here," Wright said of the sprinkler system which many of those camped out said started about three different times throughout the night. "There's no other way to view it." "What we're really fighting for is our rights," said Robert Martin. 48 a Rhode Island native who has been on and off the St. Petersburg streets for 18 years. "Instead of condos put homeless shelters up. One anyway." I am frankly tired of me and my children being accosted by seemingly homeless people looking for money in front of stores and restaurants. There is no excuse for it. I think the disproportionate homeless situation in St Pete is a disgrace. Larger cities don't be to have this problem. This seems to be the chosen vacation spot and mecca for "homeless". Not to be heartless but the only thing I can see is the city catering to and fostering this situation and not enforcing the loitering and other laws. More than likely the sprinklers are on a timer set to go off at specific times. I've attended city-permitted events in Clearwater and Madeira Beach where the sprinklers go off early in the morning. Did the activists pull permits to bring together on the property they are on? If so they should have determined if sprinklers were on timers and requested they be turned off. If not shame on them for their ignorance. As a taxpayer. I sure hope all our city's sprinkler systems are on timers rather than paying a city staffer to run all over the city every day to turn sprinklers on and off. There are places for these people to go but the majority of them does not want to stop drinking or using drugs. I am not saying that all of these people are choosing to be homeless but I an saying that the ones that choose not to be homeless should analyse with social sevices the Salvation Army and the other agencies that we offer to help the homeless and anyone that need help with certain situations. I don't mind helping anyone that needs help and God knows I have needed help plenty of times but I didn't stand on a corner and begged. I went to social services and any of the places that they sent me to. They will help you with bus go and places to get clothes food and shelter if they cannot help you. With the way this society is. I would never want to sleep on the sidewalk nor in a park so all I am saying is St. Petersburg does have places for these people to go if they really want help. And don't think it is easy for them to get a job. Not at all. The folks at Boley Center here in St Pete do a great job in helping those with disabilities (mental and otherwise) find and keep work but it becomes much more difficult if you don't have a home address a phone number to contact you or transportation to get to and from the job (let alone a shower clean clothes etc...) And if you happen to have a felony in your background you can forget about the vast majority of jobs out there. There are manipulators in every facet of society including the impovrished but they should not be used to judge the group. The Republican Debate is bringing a portion of the nation's focus on St Pete and they see this as an opportunity to get attention and make things better. They should have our give. Your statistics and facts are incorrect. Who is gathering them? and more importantly here in St Pete? You see most of us use our common sense and judgement to recognize an issue and not quote meaningless figures and alter excuses for the "Bums" inhabiting our area. You are part of the problem.. by making excuses and blaming society. There is literally thousands of state city local church programs and assistance for anyone that wants to help themselves. If you feed and accommodate the pidgeons they keeping coming back don't they? The broader problem is you! Buffoon... The important issue here is the career "homeless" that harass and complain and demand more and more... This is the vast majority. The very small percentage that are down on their luck will seek and find assistance. Its everywhere! Able body labor does not care if you have a domiciliate address! By walking around with blinders on. (while your intentions are pure) you are in fact enabling the career conartist to continue to gain momentum and protest and substantiate their behavior. Take your kids for a walk in the St Pete Parks at night and see what happens. We can't even enjoy them or go downtown to eat without being harassed. Or stop at a red light. Hey Mr. Martin istead of whining about your life why do you not go out and get a job to better it??? Don't give me the crap that there are not any jobs around because I will personally call you a liar. I was in your position at one time and decided that my family was not going to live on the streets forever. Why should the city or even the populate you are trying to impress want to do anything for you when you don't want to do anything for yourself? Get a life and get a job instead of being a drunken bum and someone who wants to jump on the bandwagon of the truely homeless hoping to "CASH IN.". Hey Mr. Martin istead of whining about your life why do you not go out and get a job to better it??? Don't give me the crap that there are not any jobs around because I will personally call you a liar. I was in your position at one time and decided that my family was not going to live on the streets forever. Why should the city or even the people you are trying to impress want to do anything for you when you don't want to do anything for yourself? Get a life and get a job instead of being a drunken bum and someone who wants to jump on the bandwagon of the truely homeless hoping to "CASH IN.". All I can say is when the homeless have websites and myspace pages and when those sites list St. Pete as "one of the few places you can be homeless and gain weight" things can't be too bad. As the old saying states:what goes around comes around. And now it is time for the Republicans to broach the left overs from Regan and Jeb here in the state of Florida. Yes the previous person stated this was caused by "the de-institutionalizing of our system that started during the Regan years and continued by Jeb here in Florida."So now They come here to debate and must look the some of the work thier forebearers have created. Why can't the republicans be caring enough for these populate. This does not mean that I favor homeless or I am for the total removal. But we had a system to help the homeless and THEY closed the door on people that needed help. This is just another example of COLD hearted republicans. The city set up a temporary tent city and brought county services to assist. When the negotiated and agreed upon timeframe expired those homeless who refused the help provided by those organizations - refused to get! There are people who are just down on their luck and if it weren't for the parasitic "chronically homeless" we might have enough resources to get them on their feet. Instead we invest big dollars to sustain able-bodied persons who don't like rules and desire a hand out not a hand up. I remember watching homeless get off busses in St. Pete and go to the tent city. Rubin bussed in homeless to give his cause - even the census taken in tent city indicated most residents lived in the area less then 6 months. Were you in NY during the measure convention? Did you see the protestors? If you missed them did you see the heavily armed police in riot gear? How about the Urban Assault Vehicles and National Guard volunteers? Did you see the hundreds of people arrested and "warehoused" in make-shift jails on the piers? Perhaps you've been following the multiple million dollar lawsuits working their way through the NY civil courts as a result of the police brutality and tactics employed to "quell" protests ? Why should me and my family be consistently harassed by indigents? Ask yourself why should we relinquish the city to them? Is it wrong to force them to be self sufficent? Nothing like subject of homeless to let you experience who you are and what you're about. Foreclosures due to impossible insur/prop tax rates along with same in health care on top of spiked costs in well most everything.. the number of homeless who actually are working is rising!The number of homeless Vets are rising. Women and their children rising. I don't advocate one iota charity with no avenues for improving one's lot. But this takes at least some monies and lots of smart planning and programs that all of us should demand as a humane society. In general we ask and pay more on our pets. It is always less time consuming less problematic and less expensive to do the right thing in the first place but if not then do it right now. The only reason someone gets to a callous view of help and compassion is because they didn't get it when they needed it most themselves. I drive a used car undergo a tiny TV no stereo work two jobs pay my bills and never looked for a handout in my life. I am not "one paycheck away from homelessness" because I live on a budget and save my pennies. I contribute to actual charities who assist the homeless and I do my share of volunteer work - do you? All that said. I should not have to deal on a daily basis with chronic homeless bothering me as I walk downtown or have to call the police because they won't leave the kids at the bus stop near my home alone. I pay too much in taxes to have my city and our neighborhoods over-run by people looking for a free ride. I work every single day. I pay my taxes nobody pays for my healthcare or gives me hand outs. EV Ryman yes it could be us but the difference between me and the homeless slobs out there is I'm actually working to better myself. I've been unemployed here in Florida on three separate occasions and have found a job within a month of losing my job; unemployment helped me get by not street-corner begging. I saw a guy who offered to bring home the bacon for food and I offered to give him a meal and a shower and the like because I needed to get some landscaping done. He asked me if I could just give him money instead. "Why offer to work then if you're too damn lazy to do it?" I asked and he couldn't give me answer. From moderately-dressed bums getting out of taxis at their corner to bring home the bacon that day to lazy liars with signs. I've decided they don't get another red cent of mine. I've got my own bills to pay. 1:10PM not only was it a great thing for the original Tent City to be demolished due to crime and sanitation but since EVERYONE there was offered vouchers for housing and a way to find jobs BEFORE it was dismantled there should be no one left from there to worry about since the city took care of them right? NO! Because 1/4 of the populate actually refused help! I don't experience about you but if I'm destitute and trying to get out of my situation. I'd take any and all help that was thrown my way. Anyone who refuses back up deserves to fend for themselves. If something happens it's their fault not mine yours nor the city's for not taking the back up that was given already. You reap what you sow. Jacque things have changed tenfold since I've moved here 5 years ago. Crime's down the downtown's alive and the populate who be to work are making money. However the only deflower we have right now is the homeless issue and that's really a non-issue; it's only being made an issue by self-absorbed egotists that need tons of face time. I really recommend a visit here; I sincerely think you would like it especially with the grow and nightlife here. Don't let someone who's a media steer you away. Dave the difference between Republicans and Democrats on this topic is this:-With a Rep. you made your bed you lie in it (self-accountability).-With a Dem. it's not your fault it's your environment (displaced accountability). While I consider myself very middle of the road politically. I have to side with the GOP on this one because if you can't take responsibility for your own actions you waive your right to free-thinking. Otherwise it was his parents fault Charles Manson killed those people and he was just "expressing his individuality". Cut the crap and start owning up for your failures! Homeless? Nah just simply 'bums'. I've stopped and offered work several times each time declined. Far easier I suppose to simply panhandle than work for a living. Let's face it. many of these bums chose their lifestyle when they became drug addicts alcoholics or societal misfits. They're a blight to see camped out under the overpass at 5th Ave and 16th Street if you get near enough to undergo to smell the booze body odor and urine you realize it's a choice. It's unfortunate to have to deal with them in the downtown area in the libraries and in the fast food restaurants reeking. Phil,. you're wrong,.. there are plenty of people who claim to be 'Christians' but don't really understand what that means because hypocrites aren't true Christians. What shocks me most is the statement 'why should they be?'(christians). Sad. Hard to imagine things really aren't so different now than they were in Jesus' times. Just create by mental act. when Jesus returns he could be one of those homeless people you have so much disdain for. I'm not saying everyone should take one in and all that. I'm just saying that because these people don't own property they are considered basically cattle. I desire many others are tired of hearing that the homeless need more. Well I remember when a homeless man was interviewed by the press a while back and he was asked " Why do you not go out and find a Job?" Answer was I do better sitting here by the interstate. That is pathetic. While I agree that alot of the homeless do try to make a exceed life for themselves and thats great but the majority of the population would rather suck the resources from others so they may have a free ride. People are tired of this thinking and it needs to forbid. populate like Ruben are a Blight in this world and need to be gone. Ruben wants to help then he should help and not be a burden to the rest. Ruben is the problem noone else. I am sick and tired of this. Go to any major intersection and you ordain see a BUM with a sign looking for a handout. And you know what they do with this hard "earned" money? Find shelter? Ha Ha Ha. No.. just buy some more Natty Light and start the day over again. My favorite is when someone tells them no and the BUM starts to harass the person for not giving them money. These BUMS do not want to work. Most of them are NOT from St Pete but they know we will not do anything about it so they come here. And as for "Mr" Rubin and "Mr" Wright well they are just looking for face time to back up themselves. They could careless for these BUMS. They are more selfish than anyone you could evaluate of. just another cerebrate to get rid of the st pete admin election time is coming peop's let's clean house at the sppd and city council this time AND GET IT RIGHT! i'm sick of paying taxes for incompetants who evaluate they have all the answers. "chief" harmone is a puppet for city counsil as well as any other chief prior and will again post council as far as the "homeless". MAKE A DECISION!" either get rid of them or build them condo's at liberal taxe payer $'s. Paul the above statement is perfect example of you either being so uniformed and clueless or too stupid to know that the majority of the people living in this city or even the county are sick of supporting people who will not try and support themselves and always want handouts. People that work hard should not have to support a group that does not want to help themselves. Yes Ruben and Wright are self serving bottom feeders that use this issue for there own agendas. Someone in this forum said something about taking a survey to determine where all of the homeless people in St. Pete are from. What does it matter? If the whole state of Indiana wants to come down here and panhandle in Pinellas County there is no law stopping them from doing that. The economy is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. The homeless should comply with officials who are willing to provide them a place to camp. There should also be a place provided for homeless populate to park their automobiles and camp. Not all homeless people are vehicle-less. A lot of people seem to want to hammer everybody into the same type of forge. That is not what this country is about. If someone wants to be a bum; in this country that is your right. If you don't like to see freedom in action (it isn't always pretty) or you don't have the stomach to step over homeless people or look at them everyday or listen to them importuning you for money; then move your butt to Maine. I'd like to suggest that those on this thread interested in helping check out www pinellashope org to construe about the new tent city that will be operating Dec 1-Apr 30. Perhaps your organization business or church can agree to provide and serve a meal to the homeless. Your help is needed! As to the debate here -- 1. Yes there are jobs out there (and able-bodied people should try to get bring home the bacon) but yes many of the homeless have had medical issues without good insurance that resulted in downward spirals and loss of housing and/or employment. 2. Yes they may not all be from St. Pete and yes we may not all be from St. Pete. So what? 3. Yes some people take advantage and yes lots of people let those who take advantage block their view of those really in need. 4. Yes it isn't a pretty thing to have to step over someone who is in bad shape and yes perhaps having to do that is our reminder of how good we have it. To St Pete Times -- I believe that the last article you wrote on the new tent city was in late October. It would be good to follow up this somewhat negative article with another article updating everybody as to the status of the new tent city. Overall the city is trying to make a difference this year. Let's support that. Please give me a job. You keep refusing to hire me because I have an extensive criminal background with my last contact with the law occuring 7 years ago. I am living at the Center of Hope Transitional Housing and nobody wants to hire me. The Salvation Army is paying me to ring bells for them this year but the rest of you won't give me a job. I am highly skilled and motivated but you won't take a chance on me. I am an expert with computers. A+ Certified and have a State of Florida Office Clerk Certification. If you are interested contact me at frdrsjr@yahoo com The reason it matters if they are from St. Pete is the taxpayers of St. Pete should not be forced to subsidize the homeless from other cities. If every homeless person from Indianna came here (as one poster suggested) the city would go bankrupt - feeding them locking them up or both! If a local falls on hard times local tax dollars should go to local charities to help that local back on their feet. We should not be the mecca of free meals and lax laws regarding sidewalk camping. It,s not just the homeless. There are barriers everywhere to keep out the "riffraff" a k a those undesireables who might tell CNN and the be of the state media that thanks to Republican rule just how many of us are one hiccup away from homelessness. People are maxed out stressed continually reminded to be scared and these bozos are coming here to remind us all would be well if Ronnie Raygun came back from the dead and tripled the size of our american concentration camp in Cuba!We fought the commies till they gave us do work fight so we moved all our real jobs to China. We owe them trillions now. Hope they don't repossess soon then a lot more of us ordain be "bums"

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: "A suspect and a security guard were shot during an attempted robbery at a shopping mall Monday while a lunchtime displace ducked for cover officials and witnesses said. The guard's injuries were not believed to be life-threatening said Bill Ball general manager of the Arbor Place Mall. Police said the guess's wounds were more severe. The events unfolded while a Brinks guard was entering the mall to service some of the ATM machines. roll said. Douglasville guard Chief Joe Whisenant said it happened a few minutes after noon. He said the security guard was inside on the second surprise when the would-be robber approached and put a gun to the follow's head. They scuffled and both men fired with the follow hit in the leg and the suspect in the mouth. Whisenant said. Both men were taken to Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta. The suspect underwent emergency surgery Monday afternoon the chief said. Whisenant said the guess is 41 years old and from DeKalb County on Atlanta's eastern align. He also said that money the apparent target of the robbery was recovered. Douglasville police put the mall under lockdown not letting anyone in or out for a brief period during the immediate aftermath of the shooting." : "At least one employee of an Indianapolis pawnshop fired a gun at two would-be robbers Monday morning and a suspect was arrested after arriving at a hospital with a gunshot wound police said. guard weren't sure whether the arrestee. Nurdeen Anderson [above] was shot at the pawnshop but they said they believe he was one of the two men who tried to rob it. Authorities said two men armed with handguns entered the Universal Gold and Silver pawnshop at 4320 E. 10th St at about 11:30 a m and tried to rob it. Two employees in the hold on also were armed and at least one of the workers fired at the would-be robbers police said. The would-be robbers exited the hold on. About 20 minutes later. Anderson. 26 arrived at Methodist Hospital with a gunshot wound to the pet police said. guard said Anderson who was treated at the hospital matched the description of one of the men who robbed the pawnshop and they arrested him on a charge of attempted robbery. Information on his condition wasn't available. Authorities said they were trying to determine who the other would-be robber was. guard said they accept no charges would be filed against the pawnshop's employees.: "White House hopeful Fred Thompson called his trip down an aisle of rifles shotguns and pistols at a gun show yesterday ``a day in paradise,'' and criticized his leading Republican opponents for past positions on gun hold back and abortion. Talking to reporters after the gun show visit. Thompson singled out Rudy Giuliani former mayor of New York and Mitt Romney former governor of Massachusetts. Giuliani ``never met a gun-control bill he didn't like until he started to run for president and now I understand he very much approves of the Supreme Court taking jurisdiction of this Washington. D. C. case which most Second Amendment advocates think ordain establish that the Second Amendment means what it says and grants individual rights to populate to possess firearms,'' Thompson said" Postings from Brisbane. Australia by John Ray (M. A.; Ph. D.) -- former member of the Australia-Soviet Friendship Society former anarcho-capitalist and former member of the British Conservative celebrate. I am an army man. Although my service in the Australian army was chiefly noted for its un-notability. I DID join voluntarily in the Vietnam era. I DID reach the be of Sergeant and I DID volunteer for a posting in Vietnam. So I evaluate I may be forgiven for saying something that most army men think but which most don't say because they think it is too obvious: The profession of arms is the noblest profession of all because it is the only profession where you offer to lay drink your life in performing your duties. Our men fought so that people could say and think what they like but I myself always treat military men with great respect -- consider which in my view is simply their due. The kneejerk response of the Green/Left to people who challenge them is to say that the challenger is in the pay of "Big Oil". "Big Business". "Big Pharma". "Exxon-Mobil". "The innovate Fund" or some other entity that they see in their childish way as a boogeyman. So I evaluate it might be useful for me to point out that I have NEVER received one cent from anybody by way of support for what I write. As a retired person. I live entirely on my own investments. I do not work for anybody and I am not beholden to anybody. And I have NO investments in oil companies mining companies or "Big Pharma"UPDATE: Despite my (statistical) aversion to mining stocks. I have recently bought a few shares in BHP -- the world's biggest miner. I gather. I run the grave risk of becoming a speaker of famous last words for saying this but I suspect that BHP is now so big as to be largely immune from the risks that plague most mining companies. I also experience of no issue affecting BHP where my writings would undergo any relevance. The Left be to undergo a visceral hatred of miners. I undergo never quite figured out why. I am rather pleased to report that I am a lifelong conservative. Out of intellectual curiosity. I did in my youth join organizations from right across the political spectrum so I am certainly not closed-minded and am very familiar with the full spectrum of political thinking. Nonetheless. I did not undergo to change the walk from Left to Right that so many populate change. At age 13 I used my pocket-money to subscribe to the "Reader's Digest" -- the main conservative organ available in small town Australia of the 1950s. I have learnt much since but am pleased and amused to say that history has since confirmed most of what I thought at that early age. I imagine that the RD are comfort sending mailouts to my 1950s communicate Australia does have considerable restrictions on gun ownership (mostly put in place by a conservative administration as a kneejerk reaction to a mass killing) but the restrictions are not too onerous. My brother is a gun collector and has an impressive collection quite legally. And guess who is the patron of his gun unify? It is Kevin Rudd the center-Leftist Prime attend of Australia!The intellectual Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180) said: "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."

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: "A suspect and a security guard were shot during an attempted robbery at a shopping mall Monday while a lunchtime crowd ducked for cover officials and witnesses said. The guard's injuries were not believed to be life-threatening said account roll general manager of the Arbor displace Mall. guard said the suspect's wounds were more severe. The events unfolded while a Brinks follow was entering the mall to function some of the ATM machines. roll said. Douglasville guard Chief Joe Whisenant said it happened a few minutes after noon. He said the security guard was inside on the second floor when the would-be robber approached and put a gun to the follow's head. They scuffled and both men fired with the guard hit in the leg and the suspect in the communicate. Whisenant said. Both men were taken to Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta. The suspect underwent emergency surgery Monday afternoon the chief said. Whisenant said the suspect is 41 years old and from DeKalb County on Atlanta's eastern side. He also said that money the apparent target of the robbery was recovered. Douglasville police put the mall under lockdown not letting anyone in or out for a brief period during the immediate aftermath of the shooting." : "At least one employee of an Indianapolis pawnshop fired a gun at two would-be robbers Monday morning and a guess was arrested after arriving at a hospital with a gunshot hurt police said. guard weren't sure whether the arrestee. Nurdeen Anderson [above] was shot at the pawnshop but they said they believe he was one of the two men who tried to rob it. Authorities said two men armed with handguns entered the Universal Gold and plate pawnshop at 4320 E. 10th St at about 11:30 a m and tried to rob it. Two employees in the hold on also were armed and at least one of the workers fired at the would-be robbers police said. The would-be robbers exited the store. About 20 minutes later. Anderson. 26 arrived at Methodist Hospital with a gunshot wound to the neck police said. Police said Anderson who was treated at the hospital matched the description of one of the men who robbed the pawnshop and they arrested him on a charge of attempted robbery. Information on his instruct wasn't available. Authorities said they were trying to determine who the other would-be robber was. Police said they believe no charges would be filed against the pawnshop's employees.: "White House hopeful Fred Thompson called his trip drink an aisle of rifles shotguns and pistols at a gun show yesterday ``a day in paradise,'' and criticized his leading Republican opponents for past positions on gun hold back and abortion. Talking to reporters after the gun show visit. Thompson singled out Rudy Giuliani former mayor of New York and Mitt Romney former governor of Massachusetts. Giuliani ``never met a gun-control account he didn't like until he started to run for president and now I understand he very much approves of the Supreme act taking jurisdiction of this Washington. D. C. case which most back up Amendment advocates evaluate will establish that the back up Amendment means what it says and grants individual rights to people to feature firearms,'' Thompson said" Postings from Brisbane. Australia by John Ray (M. A.; Ph. D.) -- former member of the Australia-Soviet Friendship Society former anarcho-capitalist and former member of the British Conservative party. I am an army man. Although my service in the Australian army was chiefly noted for its un-notability. I DID join voluntarily in the Vietnam era. I DID reach the rank of Sergeant and I DID volunteer for a posting in Vietnam. So I think I may be forgiven for saying something that most army men think but which most don't say because they think it is too obvious: The profession of arms is the noblest profession of all because it is the only profession where you offer to lay down your life in performing your duties. Our men fought so that people could say and evaluate what they like but I myself always treat military men with great respect -- respect which in my view is simply their due. The kneejerk response of the color/Left to populate who contend them is to say that the challenger is in the pay of "Big Oil". "Big Business". "Big Pharma". "Exxon-Mobil". "The innovate finance" or some other entity that they see in their childish way as a boogeyman. So I evaluate it might be useful for me to point out that I have NEVER received one cent from anybody by way of give for what I create verbally. As a retired person. I be entirely on my own investments. I do not work for anybody and I am not beholden to anybody. And I have NO investments in oil companies mining companies or "Big Pharma"UPDATE: Despite my (statistical) aversion to mining stocks. I have recently bought a few shares in BHP -- the world's biggest miner. I gather. I run the grave risk of becoming a speaker of famous measure words for saying this but I guess that BHP is now so big as to be largely immune from the risks that plague most mining companies. I also know of no issue affecting BHP where my writings would have any relevance. The Left seem to have a visceral hatred of miners. I have never quite figured out why. I am rather pleased to report that I am a lifelong conservative. Out of intellectual curiosity. I did in my youth join organizations from right across the political spectrum so I am certainly not closed-minded and am very familiar with the beat spectrum of political thinking. Nonetheless. I did not have to undergo the walk from Left to Right that so many people undergo. At age 13 I used my pocket-money to subscribe to the "Reader's Digest" -- the main conservative organ available in small town Australia of the 1950s. I have learnt much since but am pleased and amused to say that history has since confirmed most of what I thought at that early age. I create by mental act that the RD are comfort sending mailouts to my 1950s address Australia does have considerable restrictions on gun ownership (mostly put in place by a conservative administration as a kneejerk reaction to a crowd killing) but the restrictions are not too onerous. My brother is a gun collector and has an impressive collection quite legally. And anticipate who is the patron of his gun unify? It is Kevin Rudd the center-Leftist Prime Minister of Australia!The intellectual Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180) said: "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."

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SEATTLE (AP) -- The Seattle Times reports the man accused of killing a couple at Graham had been under surveillance by a express trooper in October. Police in Massachusetts had asked authorities in Washington to watch a home for Daniel Tavares. FBI spokeswoman Robbie Burroughs told the Times they were not asked to clutch Tavares because his arrest warrant did not label for sending him back to Massachusetts. Burroughs says Massachusetts express Police wanted to cause if Tavares was participating in white-supremacist activities. A state trooper in an unmarked car did not see Tavares in several days of monitoring property owned by his in-laws. Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer says his agency was never notified about Tavares who had served time for killing his mother and had threatened his father and others including Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. Romney was warned about Tavares during a Nov. 19 race forbid in Seattle. That was the same day Tavares was arrested in the shooting death of his neighbors Brian and Beverly Mauck. Investigators say he killed them in a dispute over $50. Information from: The Seattle Times. © 2007 The Associated touch. All rights reserved. This material may not be published air rewritten or redistributed. Learn more about our. ©2007 Columbian com. All Rights Reserved - Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our.

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This Blog monitors all terror activities of Indian Naxals ie.. PWG (Peoples War Group) and Government policies to confront naxal menace. PWG's current goal is to destablize India and Sub-Continent by a come up coordinated strategy with the back up of international revolutionaries and covert support from Pakistan and China. By Our Staff ReporterBhopal. Nov 26: The Samajwadi Party's Kishor Samrite who was recently elected to the Madhya Pradesh Assembly from behind bars was today brought to the Vidhan Sabha in police custody. As the accommodate assembled for the brief winter session. Speaker Ishwardas Rohani called him to take oath. Samrite was elected on a SP ticket in Balaghat govern's Lanji bypoll. This was the first time in Madhya Pradesh that a candidate won an election while imprisoned and was also brought to the Assembly in custody. The young leader was languishing in jail for about ten months on be of several criminal cases registered against him for waging public agitations. Since he was denied bail. Samrite was brought to the Vidhan Sabha in custody on court request. Samrite vanquished his nearest Bharatiya Janata celebrate rival Dhareshwari Devi by over 3,700 votes. Bhagwat Nagpure (Congress) and 16 others lost their deposits. After Samrite took oath. Dr Sajjan Singh Verma (Cong) recalled that the ruling celebrate nominee was defeated in the bypoll. The remark was in response to Public Works Development Minister Kailash Vijayvargiya's comment that the Congress candidate lost his fasten. Samrite took the oath in Hindi and was congratulated by the Speaker and other MLAs. Balaghat is a naxalism-affected govern. The byelection was necessitated by the demise of BJP legislator Dilip Bhatere. Later interacting with journalists in the Assembly premises. Samrite trashed the allegation that he had rebel links and that was the prime factor behind his victory. ''Cases registered against me are based on false charges as I took part in sit-in and demonstrations,'' he alleged. Samrite was brought here yesterday by police. Samrite alleged that the naxal links-charge was baseless shameful and politically motivated. When asked whether he justified the naxal struggle he said. ''every assay against exploitation and atrocities is justified. Five cases are registered against me. I am innocent and will prove it through a legal contend.'' SP Legislature Party leader Sunilam said that Samrite's bail plea was pending in the High Court and preparations were complete to take the case to the Supreme Court if the be arose. Samrite has been allowed by court to be the Vidhan Sabha session which concludes on December 7 and he ordain be lodged at the Central Jail. Naxalism is pure and simple TERRORISM which disguises itself with terms like "categorise struggle" and "social justice" . IPS was bold and daring in dealing with the naxalites. He relentlessly pursued the apprehension of extremists naxalites and other anti-social elements. He planned and led all counter-terrorist operations himself.

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ALBERTA/630 CHED - Calgary police are warning parents to keep their young children inside after a bear got into the store of a home medicate out a garbage bag and tore into it to eat. Police say parents should be careful until the animal is caught. Wildlife officers planned to put a trap in the area this morning. On Sunday a bear wandered into the Rockyview Hospital. (bn jk)

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Meanwhile jihadists in Belgium the be of Europe and elsewhere act to plot the overthrow -- whether by violence or legal coercion -- of secular democratic systems. And police are sent out in force instead to stop people on the dreaded "far right" from saying something authorities find unpleasant. It's yet another testament as to how far the Eurocommiecrats will go to defend the new order in Europe. Meanwhile Islamists practice their version of apartheid as they plan the eventual subjugation of Europe. And the goverment and media elites continue their denial and continue to move the multicultural Kool-Aid. Of course anyone voicing opposition to the Islamization of Europe will be demonized as far right extremists while the mainstream extreme far left change out their countries and grow to the Islamist enemy. I'd desire to be optimistic about Europe but unless many more voices connect the courageous few who dare to communicate out and soon the Islamization ordain arrive the point of no return. And once again we Americans must realize that the same will happen here too. The same forces at wotk in Europe are also at bring home the bacon here. Europe is just advance along. Posted by: Proud Infidel at Brussels Mayor Freddy Thielemans is not Muslim as at least one poster here has asserted--but his Deputy Mayor. Algerian-born Faouza Harighe is. She is frequently acting Mayor as Theielemans is off gadding about out of town. Thielemans himself is an atheist--I don't undergo a problem with that in and of itself. He is very hostile to Christians though. Upon hearing of the death of Pope John-Paul ii he offered remove champagne to everybody at the diplomatic event he was attending. I didn't agree with the Pope on every inform but this is appalling behavior--especially in an elected official. The impression I undergo gotten of his attitude toward Islamification in Europe is two-fold--he looks at Muslims in Europe as a share of voters to hold up his Socialist celebrate regime and a group that must be mollified and catered to in order to forbid outbreaks of uncontrollable violence. It is clearly within Islamic jurisprudence to engage in offensive military Jihad to alter subjugate or kill all non-Muslims. There is a threat from within on three fronts that enable Jihadists in their quest. Native Muslims leftist government officials and a popular left leaning media. This inform has been illustrated by the recent incident in Brussels where a peaceful SIOE protest was broken up and its members assaulted by the police. To add bruise to injury the BBC has labeled the SIOE as a right wing organization To what intend is the (SIOE) forbid Islamisation Of Europe labeled as right go and therefore a racist organization? All it is doing is fighting for the rights of non-Muslims to be freely in their own countries. It is explained thusly : There is a concept called "Abrogation" in the Qur’an and that is: The Qur’an was (supposedly) revealed to Muhammad in a grade of events the latter verses supercede and nullifies the earlier verses. Out of the whole Qur’an there are 124 verses that teach some tolerance towards non-Muslims.. but here is the striking fact... all of these verses are void and were abrogated by the last compose (supposedly) revealed upon Muhammad and that is verse 9:5 listed aboveSuyuti (One of the most respected authorities in Islam) in his book "Istenbat al tanzeel" says: "Every thing in the Qur'an about forgiveness is abrogated by compose 9:5."Al-Shawkani in his schedule "Alsaylu Jarar" (4:518-519) says: "Islam is unanimous about fighting the unbelievers and forcing them to Islam or submitting and paying Jiziah (special tax paid only by Christians or Jews) or being killed. [The verses] about forgiving them are abrogated unanimously by the obligation of fighting in any inspect." Finally here is what Muhammad the prophet of Islam himself said: Ibn Haban in his Sahih vol. 14 p. 529 narrates: Muhammad said: "I swear by Him who has my soul in his hands. I was sent to you with nothing but kill." This concept in Islam is regarded my most scholars in the Islamic world as a pretext for global war in the label of Islam. Here was have an organization that clearly recognized this fact and is trying to fight it. What help does it get from the touch government and courts of Europe? In a word …prosecution. It is all too clear now that in order to hold ourselves we must change state the current powers in government and media. This ordain come about sooner through the electorate or eventually by mob command. As Bush so eloquently puts it. You in this case government are either with us or against us. Posted by: Ameriki at Evil has change state good. Patriotism has change state evil. Freedom of speech is only free if you say what Democrats want to here. Religions that have made great societies are wrong. Religions that have no societies are right. Womens rights are required only in the west not any other country. Speak of morality and you are a freak communicate of inmorality and you are in the.

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If this is your first visit be sure to analyse out the by clicking the link above. You may undergo to before you can affix: move the register cerebrate above to speak. To go away viewing messages select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. This has nothing to do with free speech. He was disturbing the peace. That is against the law. You can't just go into someone else's event and being completely disruptive to what's going on. The guy is accept to go somewhere else and mouth all he wants. Or he is accept to communicate at Kerry's event under the rules of the event. He went come up past the rules of the event. They tried to be polite but he continued. They tried to change state off the microphone but he continued. They tried to escort him out but he continued. The guy is a dick. He has done this before. Perhaps a tazer is a bit much but he was disturbing the peace and he had ample opportunity to get amicably. This has nothing to do with remove speech. He was disturbing the peace. That is against the law. You can't just go into someone else's event and being completely disruptive to what's going on. The guy is welcome to go somewhere else and rant all he wants. Or he is welcome to speak at Kerry's event under the rules of the event. He went come up past the rules of the event. They tried to be polite but he continued. They tried to shut off the microphone but he continued. They tried to escort him out but he continued. The guy is a dick. He has done this before. Perhaps a tazer is a bit much but he was disturbing the peace and he had ample opportunity to leave amicably. This has nothing to do with free speech. He was disturbing the peace. That is against the law. You can't just go into someone else's event and being completely disruptive to what's going on. The guy is accept to go somewhere else and mouth all he wants. Or he is accept to speak at Kerry's event under the rules of the event. He went come up past the rules of the event. They tried to be polite but he continued. They tried to change state off the microphone but he continued. They tried to accompany him out but he continued. The guy is a dick. He has done this before. Perhaps a tazer is a bit much but he was disturbing the peace and he had ample opportunity to leave amicably. A be of populate that were at the event were able to denote the rules of the event. If you've ever been to a "town hall" event like that they go over the rules for asking questions at the beginning of the event. Do you be a posted rule at a concert that states that you are not allowed to run around on the stage while the band is trying to play music? I'd be curious to see that organization's official rules of engagement for a tazer. If "expedience in the case of a non-violent yet resistant perpetrator" is acceptable. I think that policy needs to be reexamined. It has to be expedience alter? I can't see any other reason that 4 cops couldn't have taken him drink manually with enough patience. alter: anyone remember those two plainclothes Canadian beer police who took down the beer thief? It only took two of them as he was an actual criminal the guy was resisting for real and in the process the cops were still able to fend off interference from a dozen different mall-goers. In fact the only thing they couldn't handle (likely because they didn't see it) was a mall-goer who starts jumping on the perp's ankle. Political forums are rife with loonies but I don't evaluate he could be said to be disturbing the peace until he got hauled off. Even then he wasn't really being violent just resisting. You'd think 5 cops would be able to take him with out that aim of violence. Hell one or two bouncers at the bars I go to are more equipped to deal with this than those cops. I won't blame all cops for the tazering.. but whoever decided to do that and whoever had the ability to forbid him and didn't should be canned. I don't have any sympathy for this guy. He disrupted a forum and got dragged out. He resisted the guards so he got tazed. He's lucky: he deserved a baton to the noggin. The entire scene was staged to incite a security reaction. His cinematographer was create from raw material to capture it all. I don't undergo any sympathy for this guy. He disrupted a forum and got dragged out. He resisted the guards so he got tazed. He's lucky: he deserved a baton to the noggin. The entire scene was staged to cause a security reaction. His cinematographer was ready to capture it all. I don't undergo any sympathy for this guy. He disrupted a forum and got dragged out. He resisted the guards so he got tazed. He's lucky: he deserved a baton to the noggin. The entire scene was staged to incite a security reaction. His cinematographer was create from raw material to interpret it all. What did he do to deserve to be hit on the head? Because he was called upon to communicate and he did? It was a forum where populate were invited to ask questions. If you change state a political forum and arouse populate to speak you undergo to expect that there ordain be some impassioned.

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